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This mutator allows you to 'toggle' many different game settings per map.

Example - let's say that for the maps in your rotation, you mostly don't want the Translocator to be used, but you wish it could be turned on for just a couple of maps. Well, with this mutator, you can!

Another example - you could be mostly happy with the default Air Control of 35%, but for DM-Morpheus, you could set it to 100%! Or drop it to 5%, and watch everybody struggle getting back onto solid ground. This sure would stop those players who camp the weapons up top.

And another example - you could set the frag limit higher for tiny maps, and smaller for big maps.

Here are all the settings available to set per map:

Frag Limit	Translocator	Weapon Stay
Max Team Score	Bot Skill	Force Respawn
Game Speed	Min Players	Force Team Balance
Air Control	Time Limit	Friendly Fire
Gravity

There are 2 ways you can go about setting up this mutator. The much easier way is to use medMutatorEd. Please see this post for more info on medMutatorEd: http://www.birdieman.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1275011847
(Note, at the moment, medMutatorEd only supports up to medToggle200, I will update it to support medToggle210 soon).

However if you want to do it manually, here is the package you need:
www.birdieman.com/downloads/medToggle210.zip

The help file is included in the package.

I'm guessing you downloaded the medToggle200.zip. If that is so, then yes, you have to do the editing in the medToggle.ini. And, it is not that easy! So also in the download package, you should see a HelensMutatorHelp.chm file. Just double-click this to open, and then click on the medToggle link in the tree on the left. This will have the help and directions what you need to do. Good luck!

Now there is another way. I knew that editing it manually wasn't easy, so I made an exe just for this purpose, called medMutatorEd. That is the in the related post I mention above. This is the much, much, MUCH easier way to set it up. The only drawbacks to this is that you have to have a windows OS (or at least wine), and you need to have the .net framework 3.5 installed (which is no big deal IMHO, but maybe too much of a pain for some, dunno). If you have windows, I would say give medMutatorEd a go. It also has a help file for the mutators, but the help this time is geared for medMutatorEd.

Let me know if you have any troubles, or if you want help with the ini, np I can help you set it up if you want, you just have to tell me what you need.

Hook wrote on Jun 9^th, 2010 at 6:53pm:


Huh. The page is actually compiled into the file, it doesn't have to go to the internet. I know it works on my dev machine, plus another machine I tried it on. Grrrrrr. I would be curious what OS you have, and what version of IE you have (if you do).

Meanwhile, I have posted the help file at http://birdieman.com/mutator/medToggle.htm. It was already an html file so no big deal.

I'll provide an extra example here too. Let's say you wanted these settings:



(screenshot from medMutatorEd, hint hint). The line in the ini would look like:

cMap[0]=DM-Unit,true,1.1,0.88,7,3,55,4,true,false,true,0.6

The values are a bit whack, but I am trying to use values that are different from each other, so you relate what 'slot' they go into.

Try that.

Holy moly! I appreciate the feedback.

1) Yes, that would be a good one. I can try that is. I've only done a couple mods. Each time I started one I didn't know how to do it, but got it done, haha. LowGrav would be a good addition. So I looked up "Boden's" and I see he has done basically the same thing! Looks like just a couple of minor (and obvious) differences between ours. One not obvious thing is that mine can handle up to 255 maps. I'll have to add that to the readme.

2) Good point. I will have to provide a spot for both frag limit and team score. I didn't think about a single map name being reused for two different game types.

3) I need more info here. I am not too familiar with mapvote, and I am not quite sure what you are asking. I'm guessing you are saying that with map vote, you can specify one of the settings that is also changed by medToggle. So if both mutators are trying to set it, which value will get used? Good question. It could just as simple as specifying the order of the mutators in the command line. Well hey instead of me thinking out loud here, how about you post a link to the mapvote mutator you are using, and I can grab it and test and see for myself.

4) I'll keep it simple and say yes.

5) They write text to the console log if set to true. bLogInfo will be very handy at first, it tells you what defaults you have set, the map name it is going to look for, if it finds it, and what custom values it found for the map. It just helps you get your settings right when first setting up. If you find it is not working at all, you can set bLogErrors to true and see if that tells you anything.

6) I checked this out and no. It half works. I believe with ServerActors that no code gets sent to client, so probably some of the settings need to be sent to the client and others don't, so that is why some work.

7) Yes that looks good. I never tried it with a space, but just go without it.


And just a bit more info. If you accidentally add an invalid value for one of the settings, it won't be used because there is internal checking. So if you accidentally set game speed to 200, internally it would say "nope" and just provide a basic value (like 1 in this case).

Hook wrote on Jun 11^th, 2010 at 5:38pm:

Could you point out the topic/post exactly? There are a lot of topics there.


Hook wrote on Jun 11^th, 2010 at 5:38pm:

Hmm, this might be a way to start it, but wouldn't the users have to select it? It wouldn't be very transparent as to what it's doing either. When someone selects Instagib, they know what they're getting. If the choice was medToggle, what the heck would that mean to the user! Because it would have so many settings. Well, maybe this will make sense to me when I check out mapvote tonite, but if you have any more info here how you thought you would be using it would be great.


Hook wrote on Jun 11^th, 2010 at 5:38pm:

Aha, this looks promising (I just looked it up). This will be the first thing I try. I should be able to get to this one at least tonite.

I tried using mapvote to start it, since that looks like what you'd prefer. Basically, it works. Yes mapvote started it, and yes all the medToggle settings were used. But there is a little extra work you are going to have to do though in MapVoteLA.ini.

This first one, you may know this already, but I didn't, so I had to figure this out. Ok, getting it to start using a CustomGameConfig line was easy. For example

CustomGameConfig[0]=(bEnabled=True,GameClass="Botpack.DeathMatchPlus",NewPrefix="MDM",Mutators="medToggle200.medToggle",Settings="")
 

But I wanted it to start for the regular game types too. So what gets this to work is having these 2 lines for example to handle one of the regular game types (take note of what the NewPrefix is!):

bDM=False
CustomGameConfig[0]=(bEnabled=True,GameClass="Botpack.DeathMatchPlus",NewPrefix="DM",Mutators="medToggle200.medToggle",Settings="")
 

Ok that's one thing. The second thing is, in order for your DEFAULT settings to be used, you are going to have to either
- include medToggle as a mutator for every single game type, or
- utilize the MapVoteLA.ini config line where you can specify default settings.

Here's a scenario why this is needed. Let's say your default preference for Translocator is false. The players then vote for a map that will start medToggle, and for this map, medToggle had been told to set Translocator = true. All good. Then the map ends. Then the players vote for a map where medToggle will not be started. But then the Translocator is still stuck on True, because nothing told it to set it back. So again, either medToggle is included for each game type, so it will handle resetting defaults, or, you can set up that [DefaultSettings] config line in the MapVoteLA.ini. Note, I didn't actually try this DefaultSettings thing, I am just trusting it works.

Ok I have some time to take a peek at the coding changes I need to do.

P.S., fixed my smilies   

Hook, I should mention, if you put these 2 files in your system folder, you don't need them anymore, they are the old version:

medToggle200.int
medToggle200.u

But keep the medToggle.ini, just open it up, and change the very first line to be:

[medToggle210.medToggle]

Hook wrote on Jun 14^th, 2010 at 6:10pm:


I'll clarify what I meant here, but then I'll tell you not to do it anyways. I didn't mean to put the mutator in the DefaultSettings line. What we have is two mutators who can change the very same settings, the medToggle, and the MapVote. So on the one hand you could have medToggle tweaking settings, and then to get things back to normal, you could set up the DefaultSettings exactly as described in the MapVote readme (nothing to do with medToggle).

But anyways, don't use the DefaultSettings, because we don't know the order that things will happen. medToggle could run and tweak settings, and then the DefaultSettings could set them back. So yeah, I would add medToggle to each game type, so that it is the one responsible for setting things back to default.

Hook wrote on Jun 14^th, 2010 at 6:10pm:

I'm not exactly getting a million hits a day so I think the secret is safe 

Just a note...
I am still planning to add this mod into my servers.
It will take a bit of doing so I am waiting for the time I am able to do the transition.
I'll report as to how it is working when I get it done.

At home I run Win ME.
I am Not sure about this...
Quote:

NET Framework 3.5 SP1 - What is it?

I set this up when I was Not at home. (this time)

Also, I am pretty comfortable and also used to messing with ini files, etc.