DM-Bonescraper

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I am working on a UT99 Map called DM-Bonescraper it is a port from the UT3 version.  New to this editor but familiar with the UT3 editor hopefully it is an easy transition.  I will post updated pics when ready.

Game: Unreal Tournament
     Level Name: Bonescraper
     Game Type: DeathMatch
     Botmatch: Yes
     Single Player: No
     Teamplay: Yes
     New Textures: No
     New Sounds: No
     New Music: No
     New Mutators: No
     Mods: No

Ideal Playercount: 2 - 4

[RiTALiN]

The map name sounds familier, i probably HAVE played it before, i had a 30GB archive i had made of different gameplay types and maps for my own sanity. I'll double check tonight tho. I always liked the remade maps from UT99, maybe they'll be equally as good in reverse, cool idea.

[RiTALiN]

Found this in a casual search, if you were looking for help in a remake, you might try and team up with this guy, and yeah i remember this map, it is widely used to teach wall dodging due to the layout. Helen has a map on here called Bonestreet i believe, nice z-axis and some crazy frantik gameplay.

http://www.deathox8.com/WIP/DM-Bonescraper-Classic.html

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I have reached out to Deathox8, we will see if he replies.  Thanks Ritalin.

[Helen]

Helen has a map on here called Bonestreet i believe, nice z-axis and some crazy frantik gameplay.

That would be DM-BoneMill][    http://www.birdieman.com/stats/2014/07/20140721.1909.48.DM.BoneMill%5D%5Bst.7777.htm

http://www.deathox8.com/WIP/DM-Bonescraper-Classic.html

Sweet if someone has done it already. I took a peek at some of his screenshots, it reminded me of another map I used to have on here a few years ago, DM-Antargos, here's one of the stat summaries for it: http://www.birdieman.com/stats/2011/08/20110824.1103.40.DM.Antargos.7777.htm
I took it off eventually because I thought it was a bit laggy. I'll have to crack it open to see if there's anything I can do about that.

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Progress So far- Blocking in the Geometry, ramps, walkways etc.  I need to brush up on my 2d Editor and other tools that can make manipulating brushes into shapes easier.

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Assistance Needed Please-
I have here a complex looking brush with a ramp on it from the UT3 version of this map that I have highlighted in the screenshot below:


Here is what I have accomplished so far in UT99 when trying to replicate:


I tried editing using the Vertex editing mode but can't seem to just grab run vertex, I use the (Cntr + alt and LMB to highlight the point and it grabs all the vertices, I tried just holding (Cntrl +LMB) and doesn't grab the one vertex.  Is there an easy way to replicate the ut3 version of this brush to the ut99 version or will I need to build it out in the 2D editor (more time consuming).  Another Question is- I noticed that the ut3 level is made from 3072x3072x1280 units high, in Ut99 however this looks way oversized, is there a unit conversion to follow from going from ut3 maps to ut99 maps, I think following the same brush geometry metrics will be too large for the ut99 version. Let me know any tips and tricks and if what I am saying makes sense before I continue forward.  Thanks.

[RiTALiN]

This link may be of some use in that regard, however you'd have to reverse it.

https://forums.epicgames.com/threads/588848-UT3-Converter2-0-25c-01-22-2012

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This link may be of some use in that regard, however you'd have to reverse it.

https://forums.epicgames.com/threads/588848-UT3-Converter2-0-25c-01-22-2012

I actually tried this but it doesn't convert UT3 > UT99 maps only the opposite.  So building it from scratch seems to be my option.  Thanks though.

[StivBators]

Are you using the vertex editing button? Grab the top corner from side view and edit it.

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I tried to grab it with the vertex editor but it grabs more than one point so it manipulates 2 vertices.  It won't let me grab just one from the side or front views either.

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Progress thus Far:

Let me know what you think or if you see any issues?  Thanks.

[StivBators]

Well I edited two points on each brush to make this similar shape. It's not exact to what you need but it can be done this way.

http://youtu.be/F9AAK8WJiz0

[Helen]

Stiv, how do you make that video again? I could get those brushes even more refined, and showing it by video would be best.

[StivBators]

Nvidia "ShadowPlay" ,it came with my nvidia card drivers. I tried "Fraps" but it didn't work.

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I still dont know how you did it without grabbing more than one vertex? The editor on my end grabs more than one.

[Helen]

Nvidia "ShadowPlay" ,it came with my nvidia card drivers. I tried "Fraps" but it didn't work

Rats you need at least windows 7 for that.

I still dont know how you did it without grabbing more than one vertex? The editor on my end grabs more than one.

Are you doing this?

• single click on vertex so that red cross appears over it.
  
• Hold down the Alt button.
  
• Hold down the left-click button.
  
• Now drag the mouse (while holding down Alt and Left-click).
  

That should move the single vertex you selected.

[StivBators]

Are you doing this?single click on vertex so that red cross appears over it.Hold down the Alt button.Hold down the left-click button.Now drag the mouse (while holding down Alt and Left-click).That should move the single vertex you selected.

Use this method above without clicking on the vertex edit button.

My point in the video was that I made that scene by grabbing 2 vertices on each brush, basically making a wedge shape and then overlapping them. Look closely at the additive brushes.

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That did the trick, thank you.

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Okay, I know this a little ahead of myself but before I delve too deep, how do I create the Trim look as in the UT3 screenshot, looks clean and professional, my version below however does not and  I could not find a tutorial to show how to do trim, my guess is to create a sheet and apply the trim to that?

UT3 Map with Trim on Walls/Floor, they manage to incorporate several textures into one(using Materials I suppose). I would like to create a similar look.



My UT99 map current with same texture no trim